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06 August 2005 @ 11:19 am
 
i would begin with a guess how many hours i spent in ikea yesterday poll... but to be honest i'm about to tell you so unless you poll very very quickly it seems a bit pointless.

i spent: 10 hours in ikea yesterday.

now, its a big store, but that seems a little excessive.

on the other hand it was quite fun until the 7th or so hour rolled around and i was busy lugging big heavy boxes full of bits of wood that would after a long struggle fit together into a beautiful but inexpesnive wardrope. then it wasn't so fun and after that we had to wait in a very long queue to get the afore mentioned beautiful but inexpensive items delivered to us because my mum has a very small car rather than a big lorry and that wasn't fun either, but sadly, the actual ikea experience was.

it was literally like wandering round people's houses and saying "ooh, that's nice, where did you get it?" and then going out and buying it, rather than determindly not buying that paticular item which is unfortunately what happens if you're doing it in real life. saw lots of stuff i really liked but my mum pointed out repeated that i "had no wall space". i could move things around! "there still won't be any space" so i think some kind of university shopping expedition is in order after the 13th so we can pick up that wavey mirror and lots of other mirrors and large cheap rugs and *sighs happily* yes, definately. we're going.

nothing else to report because... well, i spent yesterday in ikea and i've just told everyone about that. possibly going to reading today to buy robert some new clothes (which is fun in the way that buying clothes for mark is fun and like 'what not to wear') although we have to wait for the delivery and anyway i don't want to change out of my pajarmas because what was quite bad sunburn has now become really bad sunburn that hurts when i wear clothes...

i'd like to say i've learned my lesson, but i think at 19 i'm entering old dog territory.

if we don't go to reading will instead spend the day reading (which i consider research... and which almost accounts for why i haven't written anything for the last year)(by the by, does anyone else want to pedition the town of reading and ask them to spell their name reding or redding, both of which actually make sense?) and thinking about writing more van helsing. in fact, i'll probably do that anyway, which brings me onto david and ali's philosophical argument and 'the life of pi' which i have just finished and which is basically robinson crusoe only fun and with a tiger. the ending is also amazing, but you have to read the whole book to appreciate it.

so, anyway, i feel i should stand up for ali and i want to with the following extract (one of my favourite bits) from pi. so here we go.

'...athesists are my brother and sisters of a different faith, and every word they speak speaks of faith. Like me, they go as far as the legs of reason will carry them - and then they leap.
'I'll be honest about it. It is not atheists who get stuck in my craw, but agnostics. Doubt is useful for a while. We must all pass through the garden of Gethsemane. If Christ played with doubt, so must we. If Christ spent an anguished night in prayer, if He burst out from the Cross, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" then surely we are also permitted doubt. But we must move on. To choose doubt as a philosophy of life is akin to choosing immobility as a means of transportation.'

like 'the hours' and anything by stephen fry, pi is a book that fills me with pleasure just by putting words down in the proper order. the story i admit, is one i hated in robinson crusoe, but the way its written makes me quietly happy.

anyway, does it support ali? not sure, but i wanted to add it, because i'm an agnostic too and i think extreme faith should be applauded.
 
 
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Mark Glover[info]ignorminious on August 6th, 2005 11:22 am (UTC)
Wow. I think your trip to Ikea must have broken some sort of record. I've never been myself, but given that three hours in B&Q bores me so much that I consider creating a destraction by knawing one of my own legs off, I don't think I'd be able to stand it again.

Clothes shopping for Mark is also fun from my perspective, and must be done again at some point soon. If the clothes weren't so much more than I can reasonably afford I'd try to make it a regular occurance, as I do like having new clothes and looking good in them.

I was only woken up by the phone ringing 20 minutes ago, and haven't really got enough of my brain in gear yet, so I can't really tell whether your passage supports Ali or not, though I guess it might. Either way it is good that you stick up for her, since I argued a great deal from her corner both on LJ and MSN, and we definately had cooler points to make :)
aralias[info]aralias on August 6th, 2005 09:43 pm (UTC)
i think it does... i think.

and yes, shopping for others is great as you don't have to pay :)
Mark Glover[info]ignorminious on August 6th, 2005 09:47 pm (UTC)
Whenever I go shopping it always seems to cost me. Didn't have to pay for my hair cut today though. That was nice. Short hair for free. Looked a bit like sheep sheering as it happened though.
David Camp: flighty temptress adventure[info]davidcamp on August 6th, 2005 11:51 am (UTC)
Ikea trips are v.good. Managed to waste about 3 hours in Neasden once.

As for book quote, hmmm, v.interesting, if not a tad silly. It's implying that agonosticism is a foolish philosophy, when clearly the wise should see that its the only path that can't potentially make fools of us. I don't think it specifically supports Ali's argument, as her argument consisted of 'I believe in soulmates, but no supernatural non-tangible force in the universe'. Still, v.good. Shall meditate on it with Qui-Gon and Yoda :)
aralias[info]aralias on August 6th, 2005 09:49 pm (UTC)
see reply to patrick's comment below which i accidentally answered before any of the others except mark's.

i think its better to believe in something, even if you're wrong in a way. its the same as "its better to have loved and lost". its not the same thing at all but am i happy to have supported r/s for about 3 years? yes, i still am, because it made me mcuh happier than if i'd just enjoyed the books like all other books.

and i think it supports ali over you... because you refuse to believe anything in case you're wrong.
[info]padders269 on August 6th, 2005 02:03 pm (UTC)
Life of Pi is indeed a great book. I'm not sure about that particular quote.

I don't have any doubt about the presence of higher powers - I just don't feel I know enough to put firm names and rules to them. I consider myself an agnostic because I've never felt like I could find security in any form of organised religion I've so far come across.
Maybe I will someday. I try to keep an open mind. But it would take a lot, I think. Faith can be a great thing, as long as it's not blind.

Maybe that doesn't make me an agnostic at all. I really wish I'd done A-Level Philosophy now.

Ah, well. Agnosticism is only a word.
aralias[info]aralias on August 6th, 2005 09:47 pm (UTC)
*laughs* i read 'sophie's world' and i'm really glad i didn't do philosophy because it bored me to tears.

perhaps that's just becuase it was masquarading as a novel and i gained no pleasure from the way it was written.

and i like my quote :) also, i think its true, to a certain extent. by being agnostic we're heding our bets. whichever side wins we can say "well... i never really believed in [insert wrong belief here] anyway". if i had to plump (for want of a better word) for either, i'd go with there is some sort of god... but... i don't believe absolutely and so will that count with him?

it is interesting; it's a shame SW was so mindnumbing really.
Kyrissaean[info]kyrissaean on August 6th, 2005 03:51 pm (UTC)
You were online and didnt reply to my email
*sulks*
aralias[info]aralias on August 6th, 2005 09:52 pm (UTC)
i know. i was going to text you... that didn't really work out though.
troutinasuit: kevin[info]troutinasuit on August 6th, 2005 07:41 pm (UTC)
10 hours?!
I think I would have insisted to be left in the kids' play room...
aralias[info]aralias on August 6th, 2005 09:53 pm (UTC)
*laughs* well, they were showing the tigger movie. a fate worse than death?

perhaps.

and anyway, it was fun. like looking round other people's houses....
troutinasuit[info]troutinasuit on August 8th, 2005 06:20 pm (UTC)
Looking round other people's houses is even more fun when you don't have permission and are carrying a burlap sack just itching to be filled with all sorts of expensive, shiny things. Sadly, as fun as Ikea is, it just doesn't replicat-

*Peter hears sirens on the horizon*

Oh no, not again...
troutinasuit[info]troutinasuit on August 8th, 2005 06:21 pm (UTC)
Oh, and back when I was a bored kid at Ikea, all they had was a ball pit. I'd have given anything for the Tigger movie back then...

*Peter suddenly wonders how Katy knew what was being played in the kids' play area anyway...*
aralias[info]aralias on August 8th, 2005 06:34 pm (UTC)
*grins* i went investigating when we were waiting in the home delivery queue. and i don't really remember the ball pit but i remember being in that room for a very long time as well.
Pennyless Sitar Player[info]james_lordbyron on August 7th, 2005 12:51 am (UTC)

where did you get the icon? I really like it, while not totally sure as to the sentiment. as for sophie's world, i quite liked it, but you really have to concentrate, so it was slightly hard going in places. as for the rest...find somthing or someone that makes you happy - is there a god? yes- s/he's in them. no - why worry? you have this person/thing.
Your Obedient Servant,
Lord Byron
aralias[info]aralias on August 7th, 2005 10:18 am (UTC)
ah, i made that one :) and the lizzy one slightly above.

*reveals in not being completely crap at icons*

its the his dark materials play... so, it is true also. lots of pictures (or there were) on some website.

as for sophies world... i've read it twice. i still hate it.
[info]cream_fresh on August 7th, 2005 06:57 am (UTC)
*hugs Katy*, does this mean you have joined the ikea obsessive group too? I want to go back.....hmmm
aralias[info]aralias on August 7th, 2005 10:19 am (UTC)
yay! and absolutely. it is great. so cheap and useful and cool :)
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